Dave continues the conversation with his dad, famous attorney Philip Hirschkop. They cover his favorite case about opening the University of Virginia to women. They continue on a path through ending the Vietnam War, PETA, and Philip's firm principles being tested. Philip also gives us insights into practicing law. It isn't all about trials and corporate wrong-doings, and he admits, all lawyers aren't always amazing – some are just average people who are not sure what else to do with their lives.